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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 02:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Editor&#039;s note: It has been pointed out to me that the forthright language Mark used in his comment may cause problems with spam filters. Therefore I have altered some of the more intense words by changing them into the names of popular food items. Despite the changes, I think I have successfully preserved Mark&#039;s sense of frustration and rage.&lt;/em&gt;

LOTUS NOTES SUCKS MOTHER FUDGE ARTICHOKES

WORST PIECE OF CAULIFLOWER CRAP EVER

Whomever designed this should be executed immediately. Then executed again.

No flounder personal folders.

Frittata sent items that arent actually documents.

Worst arching system ever.

Cant fettucine restore a document from deleted items because its a frankfurter soft delete (whatever the french fries that is)

Seriously - what brain dead homosexual smelly spotty greasy virgin nerd designed this total and utter cluster fish failure.

Not one single rule for UI design and application design was followed.  No wonder Lotus figging failed to compete with Microsoft!  Amazed IBM was conned into paying a billion for this piece of shortbread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Editor&#8217;s note: It has been pointed out to me that the forthright language Mark used in his comment may cause problems with spam filters. Therefore I have altered some of the more intense words by changing them into the names of popular food items. Despite the changes, I think I have successfully preserved Mark&#8217;s sense of frustration and rage.</em></p>
<p>LOTUS NOTES SUCKS MOTHER FUDGE ARTICHOKES</p>
<p>WORST PIECE OF CAULIFLOWER CRAP EVER</p>
<p>Whomever designed this should be executed immediately. Then executed again.</p>
<p>No flounder personal folders.</p>
<p>Frittata sent items that arent actually documents.</p>
<p>Worst arching system ever.</p>
<p>Cant fettucine restore a document from deleted items because its a frankfurter soft delete (whatever the french fries that is)</p>
<p>Seriously &#8211; what brain dead homosexual smelly spotty greasy virgin nerd designed this total and utter cluster fish failure.</p>
<p>Not one single rule for UI design and application design was followed.  No wonder Lotus figging failed to compete with Microsoft!  Amazed IBM was conned into paying a billion for this piece of shortbread.</p>
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		<title>By: Soren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bennett,
thank you for very interesting posts and professional approach.
I entirely share your oppinion about Lotus Notes 6.5 and look forward to a future tool (like Outlook) that assist me by enabling me doing my job, rather than disabling me.
It&#039;s now 2010 and as you ealier wrote - we may also be upgrading(!?) to Lotus Notes 8 this year.
Looking forward to your brilliant review.
Best regards,
Soren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bennett,<br />
thank you for very interesting posts and professional approach.<br />
I entirely share your oppinion about Lotus Notes 6.5 and look forward to a future tool (like Outlook) that assist me by enabling me doing my job, rather than disabling me.<br />
It&#8217;s now 2010 and as you ealier wrote &#8211; we may also be upgrading(!?) to Lotus Notes 8 this year.<br />
Looking forward to your brilliant review.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Soren</p>
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		<dc:creator>Selection Criteria Writer - Government Job Applications Made Easy. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Example</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Example</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sanchas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanchas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the middle of deploying Notes 8.0.2 to 8000 Outlook users.  I&#039;ve never seen an application as poorly designed, or as buggy, as this one.
1) Emails are archived that don&#039;t meet the selection criteria.
2) In Folders, the &quot;Sender&quot; column always contains a name other than the user&#039;s.  It should be labeled &quot;Other Guy&quot;.
3) When a meeting reminder pops up and you clear it, the Notes application grabs the system focus.  Word, Excel, or whatever I was working on at the time are moved to the background.
4) Conversation View is nice, but you can&#039;t select all the relevant messages and move them to a folder... you can only copy them.
5) We have several users lose all of their personal contacts when they started archiving email... not a clue why this happened.
6) Emails in Tabs??? How can that be productive?  Thank God they let us open emails in separate windows.

I could go on but I have to go host another training session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the middle of deploying Notes 8.0.2 to 8000 Outlook users.  I&#8217;ve never seen an application as poorly designed, or as buggy, as this one.<br />
1) Emails are archived that don&#8217;t meet the selection criteria.<br />
2) In Folders, the &#8220;Sender&#8221; column always contains a name other than the user&#8217;s.  It should be labeled &#8220;Other Guy&#8221;.<br />
3) When a meeting reminder pops up and you clear it, the Notes application grabs the system focus.  Word, Excel, or whatever I was working on at the time are moved to the background.<br />
4) Conversation View is nice, but you can&#8217;t select all the relevant messages and move them to a folder&#8230; you can only copy them.<br />
5) We have several users lose all of their personal contacts when they started archiving email&#8230; not a clue why this happened.<br />
6) Emails in Tabs??? How can that be productive?  Thank God they let us open emails in separate windows.</p>
<p>I could go on but I have to go host another training session.</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. I&#039;d be happier with Outlook as an email client. And even happier with Thunderbird. Because the Notes UI is badly designed.

If I wanted to race round a track I would choose a F1 car. Then if I wanted to go off-road I would simply &lt;em&gt;get out&lt;/em&gt; of the F1 car and get into a jeep. Easy!

The Notes philosophy is to try and do everything. The days of the integrated all-in-one suite are long gone, but nobody told the Lotus people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. I&#8217;d be happier with Outlook as an email client. And even happier with Thunderbird. Because the Notes UI is badly designed.</p>
<p>If I wanted to race round a track I would choose a F1 car. Then if I wanted to go off-road I would simply <em>get out</em> of the F1 car and get into a jeep. Easy!</p>
<p>The Notes philosophy is to try and do everything. The days of the integrated all-in-one suite are long gone, but nobody told the Lotus people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kb2K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kb2K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another User who would be better off with restricted out of the box Micro$oft Outlook. 

Of course if you only want email and calendar and never anything else then Lotus Notes is the wrong product for you. 

If you compare Lotus Notes and Exchange in regards to Email and Calendar then this is like comparing a Jeep with a formula one car. 
If you put both in a race on a F1 track then its quite clear who will be the fastest, however it is very important to notice that the jeep will also finish his lap.......And Now We Go Off-Road ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another User who would be better off with restricted out of the box Micro$oft Outlook. </p>
<p>Of course if you only want email and calendar and never anything else then Lotus Notes is the wrong product for you. </p>
<p>If you compare Lotus Notes and Exchange in regards to Email and Calendar then this is like comparing a Jeep with a formula one car.<br />
If you put both in a race on a F1 track then its quite clear who will be the fastest, however it is very important to notice that the jeep will also finish his lap&#8230;&#8230;.And Now We Go Off-Road <img src='http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len, of course it&#039;s annoying that some people are complainers and whiners rather than doers. That&#039;s why I prefer to offer my views on my website rather than bother my own IT department with things that I know they can&#039;t change.

On the other hand, I do understand why people might hate a badly-designed tool that makes it more difficult to do their actual job. In fact, I am one of these people, and nobody could describe me as &quot;technically declined&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len, of course it&#8217;s annoying that some people are complainers and whiners rather than doers. That&#8217;s why I prefer to offer my views on my website rather than bother my own IT department with things that I know they can&#8217;t change.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I do understand why people might hate a badly-designed tool that makes it more difficult to do their actual job. In fact, I am one of these people, and nobody could describe me as &#8220;technically declined&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny...I am the Domino admin for about 3000 users...and the only people I have trouble with are technically declined people who choose not to learn and pay more attention to their inability to use something they hate rather than their actual job.  They usually don&#039;t last long with our company and bounce around from job to job a lot...basically, they are complainers, whiners and are best at arguing for their limitations...not doers.  Wink....Wink...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny&#8230;I am the Domino admin for about 3000 users&#8230;and the only people I have trouble with are technically declined people who choose not to learn and pay more attention to their inability to use something they hate rather than their actual job.  They usually don&#8217;t last long with our company and bounce around from job to job a lot&#8230;basically, they are complainers, whiners and are best at arguing for their limitations&#8230;not doers.  Wink&#8230;.Wink&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Lotus Notes at Work (version 7), I don&#039;t realy like it but can live with it. 

I have done a program in Visual basic .Net that used OLE automation server to create maildrafts so I can say that that worked well, and the documentation was good, but hard to find.

Many in the company where i work only use it for reading e-mails, I dont like that you don&#039;t get to the mailbox directly, after you login you are in the &quot;Workspace&quot; and I haven&#039;t found a way to auto open the mailbox.

Many of the simplest things are to hard to do or find so the avarage user here don&#039;t use many the of features.

Btw, do anyone know how to sort incoming mails by setting a date on them manualy when they arive, and then have them sorted so you can se what to do this week, and when you done one mark it as done and move the mail.

I can&#039;t solve this, don&#039;t whant to make 52 folders every year becaus you can&#039;t make folders fast. And to dos / folow ups don&#039;t sems to make the right thing for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Lotus Notes at Work (version 7), I don&#8217;t realy like it but can live with it. </p>
<p>I have done a program in Visual basic .Net that used OLE automation server to create maildrafts so I can say that that worked well, and the documentation was good, but hard to find.</p>
<p>Many in the company where i work only use it for reading e-mails, I dont like that you don&#8217;t get to the mailbox directly, after you login you are in the &#8220;Workspace&#8221; and I haven&#8217;t found a way to auto open the mailbox.</p>
<p>Many of the simplest things are to hard to do or find so the avarage user here don&#8217;t use many the of features.</p>
<p>Btw, do anyone know how to sort incoming mails by setting a date on them manualy when they arive, and then have them sorted so you can se what to do this week, and when you done one mark it as done and move the mail.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t solve this, don&#8217;t whant to make 52 folders every year becaus you can&#8217;t make folders fast. And to dos / folow ups don&#8217;t sems to make the right thing for me.</p>
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