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	<title>Comments on: Vespa: A better MVC</title>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-126679</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Presenter needs to access the Store to retrieve the Entity objects to pass to the View.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Presenter needs to access the Store to retrieve the Entity objects to pass to the View.</p>
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		<title>By: Lea Hayes</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-126326</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this concept, though I do not believe that the &#039;Presenter&#039; should have any dependancy upon the &#039;Store&#039;. I believe that only &#039;Actor&#039; would need to have this dependancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this concept, though I do not believe that the &#8216;Presenter&#8217; should have any dependancy upon the &#8216;Store&#8217;. I believe that only &#8216;Actor&#8217; would need to have this dependancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-82224</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Views full of conditionals are often better refactored into two separate views. Vespa does not explicitly address this, though in the example above you can see how breaking up a Controller into two Presenters and an Action naturally suggests having separate Views too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Views full of conditionals are often better refactored into two separate views. Vespa does not explicitly address this, though in the example above you can see how breaking up a Controller into two Presenters and an Action naturally suggests having separate Views too.</p>
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		<title>By: Montana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking up on this post. Ever get anywhere with it?

I&#039;m running into situations myself with MVC where my view is cluttered with conditionals, and I&#039;m looking to polymorphism to fix it. How would you see Vespa dealing with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking up on this post. Ever get anywhere with it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m running into situations myself with MVC where my view is cluttered with conditionals, and I&#8217;m looking to polymorphism to fix it. How would you see Vespa dealing with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-80993</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finding the official Vespa home page is left as an exercise for the reader.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett (no rel</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-80985</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett (no rel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might include a link to the official vespa home page.  Google is returning other contexts for that term today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might include a link to the official vespa home page.  Google is returning other contexts for that term today.</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-76322</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not by me at least. I have been toying with coding Vespa for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.springframework.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spring Web MVC&lt;/a&gt; and also for &lt;a href=&quot;http://codeigniter.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CodeIgniter&lt;/a&gt;. But I really don&#039;t have time to do it, so don&#039;t hold your breath. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not by me at least. I have been toying with coding Vespa for <a href="http://www.springframework.org/" rel="nofollow">Spring Web MVC</a> and also for <a href="http://codeigniter.com/" rel="nofollow">CodeIgniter</a>. But I really don&#8217;t have time to do it, so don&#8217;t hold your breath. <img src='http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Barce</title>
		<link>http://thunderguy.com/semicolon/2008/06/23/vespa-a-better-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-76154</link>
		<dc:creator>Barce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Vespa been coded into a framework yet?</description>
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		<title>By: Daily del.icio.us for June 29th &#8212; Vinny Carpenter&#8217;s blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily del.icio.us for June 29th &#8212; Vinny Carpenter&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vespa: A better MVC &#187; Semicolon - Vespa is a refinement of the old MVC (Model View Controller) architectural pattern that better reflects how Web applications actually work. I have refined the basic MVC pattern in light of typical usage patterns I&#8217;ve encountered [...]</description>
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